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Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 20:41:16 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #249 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Sat, 5 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 249 Today's Topics: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 01 March Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 03 March HamWindows Help: Neighbor's CW interference Medium range point-to-point digital links Status of Online Repeater Directory Project.... (2 msgs) Tandy Model 100 and Baycom/PMP Yaesu FT-2400 Recs (Thanks) Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Mar 94 05:01:51 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 01 March To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT 01 MARCH, 1994 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT --------------------------------------------------------- !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 060, 03/01/94 10.7 FLUX=094.1 90-AVG=107 SSN=061 BKI=3132 1222 BAI=008 BGND-XRAY=B1.2 FLU1=1.5E+07 FLU10=2.0E+04 PKI=3143 2223 PAI=010 BOU-DEV=031,009,032,014,009,012,010,011 DEV-AVG=016 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= C3.6 @ 2230UT XRAY-MIN= A8.3 @ 1947UT XRAY-AVG= B1.7 NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 2255UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 2240UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.0% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2355UT PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 1000UT PCA-AVG= +0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55346NT @ 1448UT BOUTF-MIN=55325NT @ 2007UT BOUTF-AVG=55336NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+069,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+131NT@ 1903UT GOES6-MIN=N:-076NT@ 0628UT G6-AVG=+091,+035,-027 FLUXFCST=STD:095,100,100;SESC:095,100,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,015/010,010,015 KFCST=2104 5011 2104 5011 27DAY-AP=015,010 27DAY-KP=1234 5421 1233 3321 WARNINGS= ALERTS= !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 28 FEB 94 is not available. The Full Kp Indices for 28 FEB 94 are not available. The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 28 FEB 94 are not available. Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 01 MAR is not available. SYNOPSIS OF ACT -------------------- BRIEF STD SYNOPTICAL INFORMATION FOLLOWS BELOW. THE SESC DAT THIS REPORT WAS COMPILED. Solar activity was low. There were very few flares of interest. The largest was a C3.6 event at 01/2230Z. Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be generally low. Additional C-class flares are expected. The geomagnetic field was quiet to unsettled over the last 24 hours. A few high-latitude regions saw periods of active conditions during the local night hours. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is expected to be remain mostly quiet to occasionally unsettled for the next 48 to 72 hours. A coronal-hole disturbance may begin to elevate levels of activity on 03 or 04 March. STD: Event probabilities 02 mar-04 mar Class M 01/01/01 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green STD: Geomagnetic activity probabilities 02 mar-04 mar A. Middle Latitudes Active 25/25/35 Minor Storm 10/10/15 Major-Severe Storm 01/01/05 B. High Latitudes Active 30/30/35 Minor Storm 15/15/15 Major-Severe Storm 05/05/10 HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions. Similar conditions should continue throughout the next 48 to 72 hours. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WIT -------------------------------------------------------- NO DAT LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 01 MARCH, 1994 ---------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP NO DAT POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 01 MARCH, 1994 -------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV NO DAT INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 03/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN NO DAT SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- NO DAT ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 94 04:34:21 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 03 March To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT 03 MARCH, 1994 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT --------------------------------------------------------- !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 062, 03/03/94 10.7 FLUX=100.9 90-AVG=106 SSN=122 BKI=3446 3222 BAI=023 BGND-XRAY=B1.5 FLU1=2.0E+06 FLU10=1.9E+04 PKI=3456 4122 PAI=027 BOU-DEV=023,058,048,165,038,018,011,015 DEV-AVG=047 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= C6.4 @ 1310UT XRAY-MIN= A7.1 @ 0714UT XRAY-AVG= B4.4 NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 0935UT NEUTN-MIN= -004% @ 1830UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.5% PCA-MAX= +0.3DB @ 1425UT PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 0915UT PCA-AVG= +0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55343NT @ 0107UT BOUTF-MIN=55284NT @ 0945UT BOUTF-AVG=55327NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+062,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+124NT@ 2129UT GOES6-MIN=N:-110NT@ 0831UT G6-AVG=+083,+042,-042 FLUXFCST=STD:105,105,105;SESC:105,105,105 BAI/PAI-FCST=015,020,020/020,030,030 KFCST=3214 5122 3346 6433 27DAY-AP=008,024 27DAY-KP=1222 3232 3235 4434 WARNINGS= ALERTS= !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 02 MAR 94 is not available. The Full Kp Indices for 02 MAR 94 are not available. The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 02 MAR 94 are not available. Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 03 MAR is: 1.5E+07 SYNOPSIS OF ACT -------------------- Solar activity was low. Region 7682 (S18W40) continued to develop slowly. This region produced several small flares, the largest being a C6/SF at 03/0210Z. Growth in Region 7680 (S12E13) has slowed. New Region 7684 (S08E25) was numbered. Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be low. C-class flares are expected in Region 7682. The geomagnetic field ranged from quiet to severe storm. Major storm conditions were observed at middle latitudes from 0900-1200Z. Major to severe conditions were observed at high latitudes from 0600-1200Z. There is no obvious cause for this short-lived disturbance. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is expected to be quiet to unsettled for the next several hours, becoming active to storm due to a coronal hole. Event probabilities 04 mar-06 mar Class M 01/01/01 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 04 mar-06 mar A. Middle Latitudes Active 15/20/20 Minor Storm 35/40/25 Major-Severe Storm 05/05/15 B. High Latitudes Active 30/35/35 Minor Storm 25/15/15 Major-Severe Storm 05/15/15 HF propagation conditions were below-normal over the high and latitude paths. Low and middle latitudes saw near-normal propagation. Conditions are expected to deteriorate on 05 and 06 March due to effects from a well-placed coronal hole. Transpolar and transauroral circuits could see moderate signal degradation (to poor and occasionally very poor levels). Upper middle latitude paths are also expected to see minor signal degradation during this anticipated disturbance. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WIT -------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7678 S14W18 048 0020 HRX 02 003 ALPHA 7680 S12E13 017 0040 DRI 04 019 BET 7682 S18W40 070 0090 DRI 10 036 BET 7683 S18W60 090 0020 BXO 07 007 BET 7684 S08E25 005 0010 BXO 04 007 BET 7679 N02W56 086 PLAGE 7681 S13W70 100 PLAGE REGIONS DUE TO RET NMBR LAT 7668 N08 283 7673 N08 267 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 03 MARCH, 1994 ---------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP NONE POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 03 MARCH, 1994 -------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV NO EVENTS OBSERVED INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 03/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN NO DAT SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Uncorrellated: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 000 ( 0.0) Total Events: 000 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WIT ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 94 08:58:08 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!well!nigel.msen.com!yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: HamWindows To: info-hams@ucsd.edu John Boyer <boyer@rd.eng.bbc.co.uk> writes: >What is HamWindows and what is DX Desktop? HamWindows is an integrated package of HF operating aid programs for Windows. It includes logging, award tracking, packet, prefix data and almanac data (CIA World Factbook), computer control of HF rig, SWL data, and more. I just rec'd the brochures on it yesterday, and it looks very impressive, but I have not talked with anyone that is using it. I am not familiar with DX Desktop. The company that makes HamWindows has just changed its name from California Software Inc to HamWindows Inc. 2121 E. Pacific Coast Hwy #120C Corona del Mar, CA 92625 USA tel 714-729-4222 fax 714-644-6277 de John/AA2DY/jokent@delphi.com ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 94 12:20:59 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Help: Neighbor's CW interference To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Alan Bloom (alanb@sr.hp.com) wrote: : A better solution is to use what's called a "common- : mode choke." You can make one by wrapping the speaker wire many times : around a ferrite rod (the loopstick antenna from an old AM table radio : works well for this) or better yet, obtain a good-sized ferrite toroid : core and wrap the speaker wire many times through that. AM table radios are getting pretty hard to find (even junk ones). What I've used *very* successfully are the ferrite torroids from old TV flyback transformers. Any TV repair shop will be happy to give you a burned out flyback for free. The CW op in question might even want to try wrapping a few turns of the power cord to his transmitter through one of them. Some old junk TVs also have huge ferrite "torroids" as part of their yoke assembly too. Thomas Ki4N ------------------------------ Date: 6 Mar 94 02:21:17 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Medium range point-to-point digital links To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >It's hard to beat a stationwagon full of mag tapes for throughput. :-) >Gary i'll see your station wagon and raise you a van full of DATs or MDs... bill wb9ivr ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 94 04:24:04 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Status of Online Repeater Directory Project.... To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Jeffrey D. Angus (jangus@skyld.grendel.com) wrote: : Well Conway, it would appear that you have shot yourself in the dick on : this project. Perhaps next time when you run into an obstacle, you give : some thought as to what the obstacle is before you run to the net and : cry rape. Actually, Jeff, Conway did acknowledge thed fact that he probably jumped the gun a bit in his initial posting of the entire problem to the 'net. I know he did so because he did it in e-mail between the two of us. While I may be stepping a little over the bounds of proper netiquette by disclosing this here (aplologies if that is the case, Conway) but it is important to know what is really going on before accusing someone of self-bobbitization (tm). FWIW Conway did, as is now clear, work with the League along standard channels coincidentally with his post to the net. If Conway had not posted his admittedly premature announcement to the net he may have lost interest in theproject because he might not have ever realized how many people were interested in the project. I think he has also added a few new volunteers to his roster as a result of this whole incident too. : After rereading your original messages and then reading the copies of the : letter from the League counsel, it is my opinion that you mad a lot of fuss : over nothing. : It is indeed unfortunate that that seems to be the standard method of : operation on the rec.radio.amateur.* newsgroups. : Congratulations on one thing though, you did manage to distract from the : CW is Trivial war over on r.r.a.p. Congratulations also on keeping the project alive. 73 es cheers, Dan -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* * Daniel D. Todd Packet: KC6UUD@KE6LW.#nocal.ca.usa * * Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu * * Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102 * * Davis CA 95616 * *---------------------------------------------------------------------* * All opinions expressed herein are completely ficticious any * * resemblence to actual opinions of persons living or dead is * * completely coincidental. * *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 94 14:13:19 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!sgiblab!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!mipg.upenn.edu!yee@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Status of Online Repeater Directory Project.... To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Jeffrey D. Angus writes: >Well Conway, it would appear that you have shot yourself in the dick on >this project. Perhaps next time when you run into an obstacle, you give >some thought as to what the obstacle is before you run to the net and >cry rape. > >After rereading your original messages and then reading the copies of the >letter from the League counsel, it is my opinion that you mad a lot of fuss >over nothing. > >It is indeed unfortunate that that seems to be the standard method of >operation on the rec.radio.amateur.* newsgroups. This indeed can be one interpretation of the events and I am sure it will now be the predominant one. The entire argument stems from the belief that the original format violated ARRL copyright in two areas and that the material in the directory is shows sufficient "originality" to merit a copyright. On both points, I have heard arguments on both sides. Prior to the initial posting of the database, I checked on both things and was told I was in the clear. The ARRL disagrees. In any case, I believe that there is a quote about hindsight and 20/20 might be appropriate. I have been receiving sporadic flames (although far fewer than notes of encouragement) over this project ever since it began. At first it was about the attitudes toward possible inaccurate listings. Now it appears that the new flames will be over my interpretation of a letter from a lawyer. Since you are so omniscient of the wishes of others, would you care to take over the running of the project? I am getting a bit tired of it. I started this thing as a VOLUNTEER project that I thought would be a benefit to the community and it isn't all that much fun. I would be more than happy to turn over the reins to someone who says that they can do better. "No good deed goes unpunished." -- Medical Image Processing Group | Conway Yee, N2JWQ 411 Blockley Hall | EMAIL : yee@mipg.upenn.edu 418 Service Drive | VOICE : 1 (215) 662-6780 Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA) | FAX : 1 (215) 898-9145 ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 94 14:39:50 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!att-out!cbfsb!cbnewsg.cb.att.com!mam@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Tandy Model 100 and Baycom/PMP To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Has anyone figured out how to connect a Baycom/Poor Mans Packet circuit to a Tandy Model 100? I just finished building a Baycom modem for packet, and I'd just love to be able to use my portable, non-MSDOS compatible Model 100 as a terminal to at least receive those packets. Actually, we've been trying to get the Model 100 to decode the signals directly through the cassette port. All we've been able to do is CW so far. RTTY is next, unless someone has cracked that nut already ... Thanks, Mark KB2els mccuistion@attmail.att.com ------------------------------ Date: 6 Mar 94 02:07:08 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Yaesu FT-2400 Recs (Thanks) To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >> I've been using a HT as my all around 2M rig, but >> have been itching to get a mobile rig. I've been >> eyeing the Yaesu 2400H and now that it is $50 off >> ($299.95) it seems like it may be time to scratch >> that itch. > >> I would appreciate feedback from those who have >> the 2400 as to what they like or dislike about the >> rig. I'm also open to any other suggestions on the >> choice of a 2M mobile rig. Thanks. > >> -- Rich N1QVT I want to thank everyone for their recommendations. In summary, except for a few very minor complaints (ex. somewhat flimsy "less used" button door, rig bigger than most, VFO knob a bit sensitive) the Yaesu FT-2400 was highly recommended by all who replied (ex. very well built, very tight front-end (intermod? what intermod?), really gets out, sounds great). I really appreciated the kind responses. Thanks again. 73 Rich N1QVT (Proud owner of a new FT-2400) -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard A. Cuti Voice: 617-942-2000 x3309 | | TASC Internet: racuti@tasc.com | | 55 Walkers Brook Drive Compu$erve: 76170,420 | | Reading, MA 01867 Amateur Radio: N1QVT | | | | (Opinions are strictly those of me, myself and I) | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 94 11:46:27 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <762531813snx@skyld.grendel.com>, <2kvqsu$r0d@ornews.intel.com>, <rohvm1.mah48d-020394123111@136.141.220.39> Subject : Re: 5 by 5... John E. Taylor III (rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com) wrote: : This appears to go back to military usage during WWII (maybe earlier, but : _I_ wasn't around to verify that), and a radiotelephone signal-report scale : that was 1 - 5 on both readability and strength. Thus "5 by 5" is a good : as it gets. I think there was a swing novelty tune from this era called "Mr 5 by 5" (about a fat guy). Thomas Ki4N ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:51:04 GMT From: pa.dec.com!src.dec.com!crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!ryn.mro.dec.com!est.enet.dec.com!randolph@decwrl.dec.com To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <gradyCLsKtB.I3r@netcom.com>, <kmeyer.3b0x@bbs.xnet.com>, <1994Mar2.175938.12119@alw.nih.gov>ot. Subject : Re: Further criminalization of scanning In article <1994Mar2.175938.12119@alw.nih.gov>, weisen@alw.nih.gov (Neil Weisenfeld) writes... >What I think we should do is write to our congresspeople and tell them why >we feel the cellular and cordless privacy laws are so misguided. Even if >they outlaw the manufacture of scanners that can receive cordless >(and I haven't heard anyone say that that is what is up for debate -- >only outlawing *listening*, not manufacture), those radios are going to be >around for a long, long time as used equipment. Been there, done that. My Congressman ignored my letter. The law didn't pass on his watch, so, in the finest tradition of politicians, I guess he feels no obligation to deal with it. Amen to the long, long time. I just tuned up my old BC220 table-top scanner. 15 years old, 20 channels, and no 800MHz, but still not a bad radio if your city hasn't gone to trunked public service. >I'd be interested if other people agree. Yup. These laws, if I'm not misinformed, are unique in recent history in that up until their enactment, it was legal to listen to any waves passing through your home, as long as you didn't act on or disclose what you heard. You are now a criminal if you choose to *tune in* to these particular band segments, regardless of what you do with what you hear. More such laws will follow, since government and regulations never shrink in size. -Tom R. N1OOQ randolph@est.enet.dec.com ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 94 11:58:01 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Mar1.165710.2145@dtint.dtint.com>, <2l2fk0$eqj@hpavla.lf.hp.com>, <POPOVICH.94Mar2125229@prince.cs.columbia.edu> Subject : Re: QST review of Dual-Bander HTs Steve Popovich (popovich@prince.cs.columbia.edu) wrote: : The problem here, of course, is that the aviation handhelds are type : accepted for aviation use, and the TH-78A is not. It's against FCC : regulations to use the TH-78A to transmit in the aircraft band. If I : had one along in an airplane and there was an emergency requiring its : use, then I'd use it, but I wouldn't expect the FCC to be pleased. You know, I always thought that the FCC was easy going on the rules in an emergency situation. But I just read in 73 magazine that the FCC confiscated someone's HT for calling emergency help on the sheriff's frequency when help could not be found in the ham bands (very remote location). (this news snippet appeared in the Feb or March '94 issue of 73 ) Thomas Ki4N ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #249 ******************************